{"id":1414,"date":"2025-06-29T23:24:45","date_gmt":"2025-06-29T23:24:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/?page_id=1414"},"modified":"2025-07-10T12:02:29","modified_gmt":"2025-07-10T12:02:29","slug":"issue-privacy-fences","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/?page_id=1414","title":{"rendered":"Privacy Fences"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#9fb5a0&#8243; custom_padding=&#8221;1px||1px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/unnamed.png&#8221; title_text=&#8221;unnamed&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#7fad14&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;15px||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||-1px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Issue:<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>\u00a0Privacy Fences.<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;|||8px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;0px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Facts:<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#0f0f0f&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.5em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;-27px|20px||25px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u00a0There are several HOUSES along the trail that are very close. I highlight &#8220;house&#8221; because they are not outbuildings. There are more than the 3 pictured below, but these are probably the worst. They could be used to set standards.<\/li>\n<li>\u00a0DeRail has discussed this with VDOT. Sometimes on location, or in meetings, and in emails.<\/li>\n<li>\u00a0VDOT&#8217;s plan does not include helping them (unless enough people step up and say something).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;|||8px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;0px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Photo References:<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#0f0f0f&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.5em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;-27px|20px||25px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><span>Green lines shows trail path. Red lines show boundary of state property. The red lines are shown in #3 to show that the trail is not always in the center of the Right of Way. Green line is offset from corridor because of terrain<\/span><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;1_3,1_3,1_3&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_3&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/3.jpg&#8221; title_text=&#8221;3&#8243; align=&#8221;center&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; max_width=&#8221;80%&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;|||0px|false|false&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;7px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Above: Subject 1- Distance 48&#8242;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_3&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/2.jpg&#8221; title_text=&#8221;2&#8243; align=&#8221;center&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; max_width=&#8221;80%&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;5px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Above: Subject 2 &#8211; Distance 38&#8242;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_3&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/CaptureWYW.jpg&#8221; title_text=&#8221;CaptureWYW&#8221; align=&#8221;center&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; max_width=&#8221;83%&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;5px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Above: Subject 3 &#8211; Distance 62&#8242;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;|||8px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;0px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Details and Thoughts.<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#0f0f0f&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.5em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;-27px|20px||25px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>This trail is meant to bring in a large amount of visitors from outside the area. It won&#8217;t be just your neighbors using this trail. Would you want a constant flow of complete strangers being so close to your house? What if you had kids. Can they play in your own yard without worries? Who&#8217;s watching? Who&#8217;s scheming? Who will come back later? This is not a car going down the road at high speeds. If that car stops, you take notice. This is a trail that people can legally mull around on, take breaks, and see what&#8217;s going on. Granted most trail users are good people, but if you research a bit or ask law enforcement, they will say 1 out of 10 people are suspicious\/bad. If given the chance they will take advantage.<\/p>\n<p>A privacy\/security fence would prevent window shopping. Give a bit of a barrier, some time to react. It would define the space as to &#8220;no trespassing&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Building a privacy\/security fence in situations like this should be a common courtesy, especially if business-type enterprises are creating the issue. VDOT is hoping that the counties or special interest groups will raise funds for this. That is a diversion tactic. They want to get the trail built and leave the aftermath of their poor decisions be someone else&#8217;s problem. VDOT knows the counties are strapped for money. Meanwhile, VDOT has a current budget of $19.5 Million, but wants to selfishly keep that for padded, inflated expenditures.<\/p>\n<p>VDOT claims that if they start building fences it gets controversial. Who gets a fence, and who doesn&#8217;t. I would agree, there are fine lines that need to be established. Boundaries could be set like saying fences will be built &#8220;within 65&#8242; from the edge, window, or entrance to the house&#8221;. They spend Millions per mile for sound barriers on Highways. They must have established rules there. This would be such a minuscule amount of money in the whole big picture of the 19.5M. It would help the most adversely affected residents and go along way in creating &#8220;good will&#8221; and &#8220;peace and harmony&#8221; on the trail.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0There should be no reason a homeowner that lives this close to the trail should have to foot a bill for a fence for protection. This is being forced upon them. VDOT needs to work with these homeowners and make it right.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;|||8px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;0px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h3><strong>What can be done:<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#0f0f0f&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.5em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;-27px|20px||25px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><span>It&#8217;s suggested that you comment:\u00a0 &#8221; I oppose this trail due to lack of privacy fences.&#8221; and fill in the rest with some description of how VDOT should build privacy fences and possibly a guide to what scenarios you think would be fitting.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;|||8px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;0px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Please help !<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#0f0f0f&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.5em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;-27px|20px||25px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>Take a moment right now and send a comment to VDOT declaring that you oppose the trail. This trail is in it&#8217;s final stages for final approval.\u00a0 They are currently gathering comments in regards to it. Please send one.<\/p>\n<p>There is an active link below to send comments. Some computers have security features that block the use of the email button. 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40px;\"><strong>You can also mail Comments to:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">VDOT: Mr. Kelly Dunn<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Craig Botetourt Scenic Trail; Comment<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">731 Harrison Ave.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Salem , VA. 24153<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Issue:\u00a0Privacy Fences.Facts: \u00a0There are several HOUSES along the trail that are very close. I highlight &#8220;house&#8221; because they are not outbuildings. There are more than the 3 pictured below, but these are probably the worst. They could be used to set standards. \u00a0DeRail has discussed this with VDOT. Sometimes on location, or in meetings, and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"on","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-1414","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1414","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1414"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1414\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1780,"href":"https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1414\/revisions\/1780"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1414"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}