{"id":1315,"date":"2025-06-27T20:20:38","date_gmt":"2025-06-27T20:20:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/?page_id=1315"},"modified":"2025-07-10T11:55:01","modified_gmt":"2025-07-10T11:55:01","slug":"bathrooms","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/?page_id=1315","title":{"rendered":"Bathrooms and Trash Receptacles"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#9fb5a0&#8243; custom_padding=&#8221;1px||1px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/unnamed.png&#8221; title_text=&#8221;unnamed&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#7fad14&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;15px||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||0px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Issue:<\/strong> Bathrooms and Trash Receptacles<\/h2>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;|||8px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;0px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Problem:<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#0f0f0f&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.5em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;-27px|20px||25px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>1). Where will people go ( as in.. <em>REALLY GO<\/em> ?)<\/p>\n<p>2). VDOT&#8217;s website seems to be wrong in saying who will take care of bathrooms and trash. They are non-responsive in addressing this.<\/p>\n<p>3). Forces people to Trespass.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;|||8px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;0px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Facts:<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#0f0f0f&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.5em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;-27px|20px||25px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>1). At a public information meeting on Sept. 9th, 2023 that DeRail organized, Botetourt County Supervisors Amy White and Steve Clinton attended (separately). Each of them had said that nothing was agreed to on such a matter. VDOT had been advertising this same misleading information at that time.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>2). Craig County Supervisor Jordan Labiosa wrote this on June 9th , 2025 :<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/IMG_7583.jpg&#8221; title_text=&#8221;IMG_7583&#8243; align=&#8221;center&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; max_height=&#8221;279px&#8221; module_alignment_last_edited=&#8221;off|tablet&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;8px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#0f0f0f&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.5em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;-27px|20px||25px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>3). On Nov 5th, 2023 Wilderness Adventure hosted an event. This video from that day shows what may happen when bathrooms are not\u00a0 available (or close enough). At about the 10sec mark you will see someone come up the hill, get back dressed, and move on. In one day of using the road as a trail, this was captured. How about when it&#8217;s 365 days a year,..and forever.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_video src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.derailthetrail.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/730573E4-8DC2-49D1-A487-0C5742FE7A99.mov&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; width=&#8221;100%&#8221; max_width=&#8221;88%&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;|0px||35px|false|false&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;5px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_video][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;|||8px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;0px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Commentary:<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#000000&#8243; text_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.5em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;-27px|20px||25px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; text_line_height_tablet=&#8221;1.5em&#8221; text_line_height_phone=&#8221;2.9em&#8221; text_line_height_last_edited=&#8221;off|desktop&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>There is likely false information being spread by VDOT. They have it listed on their website that the counties will provide and maintain them. However, VDOT does not have any evidence that justifies this claim. They are non-responsive in finalizing an\u00a0 answer to this debate.\u00a0 Will they use FORCE to get the counties to spend money on their project?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Both counties are not in good enough financial shape to commit continued spending towards any part of this trail. Craig is facing many issues that are of greater need than this, and Botetourt is heavily in debt.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>VDOT is in charge of this project. It is classified under transportation. For that reason they need to take full responsibility of building AND maintaining it. All of it. Plain and Simple.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;|||8px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;0px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Solution:<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#0f0f0f&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16px&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.5em&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;-27px|20px||25px|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>We ask that you <strong>do not support<\/strong> the Trail because of this matter. An important detail like this must be resolved before agreeing to anything. If you were building a house, would you sign a contract with a builder and give a down payment without knowing if there will be a bathroom?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Please send a comment to VDOT via email. There is an active link below.\u00a0Some computers have security features that block the use of the email button. When that happens, you need to use your regular email service and type in the email address given below.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Be sure to include in the <strong>Subject Title = <\/strong>\u00a0&#8220;<strong>Craig Botetourt Scenic Trail: Comment<\/strong>&#8220;<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;25px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span id=\"enkoder_0_1944983372\">email hidden; JavaScript is required<\/span><script type=\"text\/javascript\">\n\/* <!-- *\/\nfunction hivelogic_enkoder_0_1944983372() {\nvar kode=\"kode=\\\"110 114 103 104 64 37 114 110 104 103 95 37 64 52 52 35 51 52 52 35 55 51 52 35 54 51 52 35 55 55 57 54 35 35 58 53 57 55 35 35 55 56 60 55 35 35 53 56 60 55 35 35 53 54 55 52 35 54 52 52 35 59 51 52 35 55 52 52 35 60 51 55 35 35 60 55 55 55 35 35 54 51 52 35 55 52 52 35 59 52 52 35 58 51 52 35 55 53 52 35 52 51 52 35 55 52 52 35 58 60 55 55 35 35 55 56 60 55 35 35 53 56 60 55 35 35 53 54 55 52 35 60 52 52 35 59 51 52 35 52 52 52 35 56 52 52 35 59 52 55 35 35 60 51 52 35 55 51 52 35 54 52 52 35 55 52 52 35 51 55 57 52 35 55 51 52 35 54 51 52 35 55 52 52 35 51 52 57 35 35 53 56 60 54 35 35 58 51 52 35 54 52 52 35 55 51 52 35 53 53 52 35 51 52 52 35 53 51 52 35 55 52 52 35 54 52 52 35 60 60 55 52 35 53 53 52 35 58 52 52 35 59 51 52 35 60 52 52 35 55 51 55 35 35 54 56 60 54 35 35 58 56 60 60 35 35 56 56 60 60 35 35 56 56 60 60 35 35 56 54 57 52 35 51 51 54 35 35 56 51 52 35 58 52 52 35 58 51 52 35 55 51 52 35 56 55 57 60 35 35 56 56 60 60 35 35 56 56 60 60 35 35 56 58 54 60 35 35 56 56 60 52 35 53 52 52 35 51 51 52 35 59 51 52 35 52 52 52 35 60 52 52 35 55 52 57 35 35 52 51 58 57 35 35 60 57 59 59 35 35 58 58 57 52 35 52 53 52 35 54 51 52 35 55 52 52 35 60 52 55 35 35 60 53 52 35 52 51 52 35 59 52 52 35 58 51 52 35 57 51 52 35 59 52 52 35 54 51 52 35 59 51 52 35 51 60 55 52 35 57 51 52 35 55 52 52 35 52 53 60 35 35 56 56 60 60 35 35 56 56 60 60 35 35 56 58 54 60 35 35 56 56 60 60 35 35 56 56 60 60 35 35 56 56 60 57 35 35 56 51 58 57 35 35 60 57 59 59 35 35 58 58 57 52 35 52 53 52 35 54 51 52 35 55 52 52 35 60 52 55 35 35 60 53 52 35 52 51 52 35 59 52 52 35 58 51 52 35 57 51 52 35 59 52 52 35 54 51 52 35 59 51 52 35 51 60 55 52 35 57 51 52 35 55 52 52 35 52 53 60 35 35 56 56 60 60 35 35 56 56 60 57 35 35 54 51 56 52 35 51 51 60 35 35 56 56 60 60 35 35 56 56 60 57 35 35 56 56 60 54 35 35 58 56 60 60 35 35 56 55 55 57 35 35 53 56 60 54 35 35 58 55 57 52 35 55 51 52 35 54 51 52 35 55 52 52 35 51 52 54 35 35 58 53 57 52 35 51 52 52 35 55 52 52 35 54 51 52 35 55 51 57 35 35 55 52 52 35 51 52 52 35 55 51 52 35 54 51 52 35 55 60 55 52 35 59 52 52 35 56 52 52 35 52 52 52 35 59 51 52 35 60 52 55 35 35 54 53 55 55 35 35 53 55 55 55 35 35 60 52 52 35 58 51 52 35 55 53 52 35 52 51 52 35 55 52 52 35 58 52 52 35 59 51 52 35 55 54 55 55 35 35 55 60 55 52 35 60 51 52 35 55 52 52 35 59 51 52 35 54 52 55 35 35 54 53 55 55 35 35 53 55 55 57 35 95 37 53 110 62 103 114 64 104 114 110 104 103 118 49 111 115 119 108 95 42 43 95 42 35 62 44 64 123 95 42 95 42 105 62 117 114 108 43 51 64 108 62 110 63 103 114 49 104 104 111 106 113 107 119 108 62 46 46 126 44 46 123 86 64 117 119 113 108 49 106 117 105 112 114 107 70 117 100 114 70 104 103 115 43 117 100 104 118 113 76 43 119 114 110 104 103 108 94 48 96 44 54 128 44 114 110 104 103 123 64 62 37 62 123 64 42 42 62 105 114 117 43 108 64 51 62 108 63 43 110 114 103 104 49 111 104 113 106 119 107 48 52 44 62 108 46 64 53 44 126 123 46 64 110 114 103 104 49 102 107 100 117 68 119 43 108 46 52 44 46 110 114 103 104 49 102 107 100 117 68 119 43 108 44 128 110 114 103 104 64 123 46 43 108 63 110 114 103 104 49 111 104 113 106 119 107 66 110 114 103 104 49 102 107 100 117 68 119 43 110 114 103 104 49 111 104 113 106 119 107 48 52 44 61 42 42 44 62\\\";kode=kode.split(\\' \\');x=\\'\\';for(i=0;i<kode.length;i++){x+=String.fromCharCode(parseInt(kode[i]-3))}kode=x;\";var i,c,x;while(eval(kode));\n}\nhivelogic_enkoder_0_1944983372();\nvar span = document.getElementById('enkoder_0_1944983372');\nspan.parentNode.removeChild(span);\n\/* --> *\/\n<\/script><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; 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